Week 13 - Arlie vs. Kelsey

[James]

Hello Houseguests!

Welcome to the thirteenth eviction ceremony of the season!

This round, Arlie and Kelsey have been nominated for eviction, one of them will be the thirteenth evicted from the Big Brother Rise Fall 14 house!

vs.

Steve , when you're ready, please cast the sole vote to evict either Arlie Shaban or kelsey .

You have 24 hours. Good luck nominees!

[Steve]

Hey everybody.


As veto winner, I am the sole vote to evict this week. Which I'm sure makes Becky very happy. I've given this decision little thought, but have decided this is not just the most entertaining option to have going into the final three, but something I've already given my word on. So, ba da da da, dramatic music. I vote to evict..



....


..

SPOILER: Click to show

Arlie Shaban

We had a deal with Howard, Shelli and Liz earlier in the game. But after that got blown up, that sort of disintegrated and it became just us casually talking small game with each other. I know you feel like it wasn't like that, but it was. You made some valid points on why I should keep you, and I mean, you're still campaigning to me but I feel like you're not gonna stop until this goes up. At the end of the day, if it'd be in my best interest to keep you over Kelsey because i could take you to the final two and win, then there's nothing to say Shelli couldn't do the same, because if she won the final HOH, you would be going to her saying how I need to go and how you're the better person to take to the finals. I just can't risk that this late in the game. Sorry, Arlie, the tribe has spoken (is that the wrong show? Crap.)

[kelsey]

Thanks Steve! 

It's been a pleasure, Arlie.

[nicole]

It's official... 

SPOILER: Click to show

You are evicted from the BB Rise & Fall 14 house. 

Congrats to the final 3!

[Arlie Shaban]

I really really wanted to go and be a good sport about the whole thing, and be all "no hard feelings, good game everyone!" and bow out gracefully, but after everything with how this and the last couple of rounds went down, I just can't. I can't settle for not voicing my mind and showing respect to someone who barely showed me any in his reasoning for doing what he did.

Put bluntly: You're a huge idiot.

I told you point blank that keeping me would be better for your game than keeping Kelsey since not only would more people vote for her than me, but since you'd have a better shot at winning Final HOH with me there instead of her. Yet, your reason for doing so was saying you wanted to "stay loyal to your alliance" that had come up in the F6/F7 and couldn't turn against that. However, that reasoning loses a lot of merit when you talk about loyalty and not breaking pacts to someone that went out of his way to make one with you (and keep it) far earlier. You can lie to yourself or the others and say that the conversations we had rounds and rounds before were just "casual talk" with the occasional bit of thin game in there, but you can't lie to me when I know it was far more in depth and long term game talk than that. And personally, your statement that I was less straightforward or upfront than Kelsey was laughable, appalling, and almost straight up offensive since your examples of why included "when I asked if you were close to some people, you'd say 'no, I'm not'" (which last I checked is a pretty straightforward answer), or that I wouldn't respond to the question at all and would ignore and avoid it (which is a straight up lie).

And saying I never tried to patch things with you and Shelli or get groups together that included you with the "none of us tried to work together late game" bit isn't right at all. Then again, maybe I stopped feeling inclined to after a while of my advice never once being taken. I know the fact is you're there, and I'm not, but the entire way this thing has gone down has left a bad taste in my mouth. Also, you said that you'd think Shelli would take me over you to the Final 2. This despite you feeling such a closeness to her that you made a potential game-ruining Final 3, and stated that you'd "stick to it even if it cost you the game" and that your whole gameplan has been "making purposeful mistakes" (instead of not making mistakes), kind of leaves me wonder. If you truly feel as close to Shelli in your F3 as you said, then certainly you'd have had no reason to worry about her not taking you to the Final 2 in that situation.


That being said, I've talked way too long though. It's been a pleasure playing with you Kelsey, and congrats on making it through this. Shelli, congratulations on Final 3. Hosts, Housecalls, everyone else, thanks for everything, and I've enjoyed this whole trip.

See you on the other side.

[Steve]

Okay lol. Let's break it down for the nosebleeds.

1) you campaigned to me for two hours, going off about logic and being rational. Two hours, this week. Last week when I put you up it was 2.5 hours, and both times literally only stopped when I forced it to by making the ceremony. You drone on and on, repeating the same three points, and then get upset when I start to tune you out. I may be a huge idiot, but I saved everybody from you giving 4,000 word responses to simple questions in the final two, when in reality, you didn't do much. At all.

2) You can ask anyone. Howard, Becky, whatever. We were not close. I've had my issues with you for awhile, and you can pretend like us discussing game was confirming some final three all you want, but I've never said that, and you're on the same page with James with his "long conversations with everyone"

3) you can check the messages. I'd ask if you were close to someone after the entire house confirms you are, and you would downplay it. You can't tell me the entire game you've only connected with Liz Shelli me and Howard because I know that's not the truth, and you downplayed it every time I asked you about it. You're not sly lol. I'm not either but I admit it.

4) did I say you never tried to patch things up? No I did not. are you trying to convince me or
yourself lol.

5) if Me or Shelli didn't take you to the final two, we would be stupid. Very stupid, because who wouldn't want to take the floater? 

6) Bye, Felicia. 

[Shelli Poole]

Bye, Arlie! I genuinely enjoyed playing with you.

Congrats Kelsey!

[Arlie Shaban]

Aug 3, 2016 20:58:39 GMT Steve said:

Okay lol. Let's break it down for the nosebleeds.

1) you campaigned to me for two hours, going off about logic and being rational. Two hours, this week. Last week when I put you up it was 2.5 hours, and both times literally only stopped when I forced it to by making the ceremony. You drone on and on, repeating the same three points, and then get upset when I start to tune you out. I may be a huge idiot, but I saved everybody from you giving 4,000 word responses to simple questions in the final two, when in reality, you didn't do much. At all.

2) You can ask anyone. Howard, Becky, whatever. We were not close. I've had my issues with you for awhile, and you can pretend like us discussing game was confirming some final three all you want, but I've never said that, and you're on the same page with James with his "long conversations with everyone"

3) you can check the messages. I'd ask if you were close to someone after the entire house confirms you are, and you would downplay it. You can't tell me the entire game you've only connected with Liz Shelli me and Howard because I know that's not the truth, and you downplayed it every time I asked you about it. You're not sly lol. I'm not either but I admit it.

4) did I say you never tried to patch things up? No I did not. are you trying to convince me or
yourself lol.

5) if Me or Shelli didn't take you to the final two, we would be stupid. Very stupid, because who wouldn't want to take the floater? 

6) Bye, Felicia. 

I wasn't going to get much more into this, but if you insist, I guess I'll just have to shut this shit down again, won't I?


1: You're damn right I went on campaigning to you for over 2 hours today (and would have kept going until I had to leave for work if you didn't post the Ceremony), because I was FIGHTING to stay. That's what you do when you're in a tough position and are trying to turn it around, you fight with everything you can to make it through it. It's not even a matter of "getting mad at you tuning me out", it's that after bringing up like 20 or so valid reasons to why keeping me was a smarter move, you decided to act like you were "above" being campaigned to. If I'm in a position where someone's campaigning because they want to stay, I'd expect them to fight, because I'd expect them to want to stay in the game. I'd rather go in depth with substantial answers, than give short bullshit. And I'd rather take doing a few things that happen to be right over doing a lot of things that are almost all wrong anyday.

2: Since you didn't even bother finishing your point here to where it makes a complete thought, I'll just go and say that despite thinking there was something shady on you from the get go, things with Shelli did extend to you by proxy. Now if you really care for further discussion on this, finish your thoughts in the future.

3: I suspect you might not be aware of what "downplaying" means. If I'm asked "are you close with Kathy" or "are you close with Kelsey", and I straight up say "no", that's not downplaying. If I'm not close to them, of course I'm going to say "no", because that's the truth. And if I am close with them, I'm likely going to say "no" too, on the basis of saying "yes" not having a positive impact on my game. Either way, a blunt "no I'm not" answer is a straight-up response, and not dancing around or downplaying the subject. That's just how language works, and being upset that the answer you got wasn't one you liked doesn't change that.

4: You flat out said nobody from Slash tried to work together or regroup after it got exposed. This was even after I'd mentioned trying to get things going with the 3 of us again. And even with that being aside, it was a total lie from the get go because you and Shelli obviously worked together afterwards. The more funny thing is that you don't even seem to get that.

5: I love how you're trying to use "Floater" as an insult. Perhaps you simply got it confused with the term "Coaster"? If you're not sure what a "Floater" looks like, I'm sure there are Big Brother sites that have profile pictures of Will Kirby, Jun Song, and the actual Cassandra from BBCA4. I appreciate the accidental compliment, but please, get your terminology down in the future, please and thank you.

6: Bye Stevie. If you think evicting me actually was the best thing for your game, that the decision was really all yours, or that the Final 3 you're in actually benefits you....well, I've got some oceanfront property in Nevada I'd like to sell you.

[Steve]

I didn't even bother to read that lol. Something about your personality makes me zone out, I think.

[Arlie Shaban]

It's okay, I understand it can be easier to not want to read things that would show you being wrong. Maybe the game would've been less of a mess for you if you read and listened to others.

But, I can see I'm not going to get anywhere or accomplish anything really meaningful here. I'll just leave you to your own mind, so...

[Steve]

Says the person not in the house anymore.

I'll see you next week as the last juror. Later, bro.