Qrazy Questions

[crazyjames]

Ok hi so like, the last time you all saw me, I blew up on Howard (for good reasons), but you two also had a hand in me getting evicted, and I'm not really sure to go from here.

SHELLI - Shelli, you played a really good, game and it sucks that we had our falling out. However, I will vote for who I think played the better game. 

With that being said, 

1 - Why did you play a better game then Steve, what were his faults, and why should I vote for you over him?

STEVE - Steve, I'm not really sure what to think about your game, but like I said, I'm voting for who played the better game, so exact same question to you. 

1 - Why did you play a better game then Shelli, what were her faults, and why should I vote for you over her?



I want you guys to show us why YOU deserve the game and why the other person doesn't. You need to get this jury on your side. 

Good luck <3

[Shelli Poole]

Aug 8, 2016 15:39:02 GMT crazyjames said:

Ok hi so like, the last time you all saw me, I blew up on Howard (for good reasons), but you two also had a hand in me getting evicted, and I'm not really sure to go from here.

SHELLI - Shelli, you played a really good, game and it sucks that we had our falling out. However, I will vote for who I think played the better game. 

With that being said, 

1 - Why did you play a better game then Steve, what were his faults, and why should I vote for you over him?

Hi James! Thank you and I agree it sucks about our falling out. I really did feel bad about putting you up and, I've gone into some detail about it if you care to read my answer to Becky. Basically, though, I had a few alliances going on and I had to pick from outside of those. I wouldn't have put you up, otherwise. I really did like you. You asked me a couple of times about forming and alliance and at that point I was already in four...so I just didn't want to be officially aligned with every single person in the house. Depending on who you wanted to add to an alliance, that could've happened lol. I just thought we could keep our little side thing, I was happy with that but I totally understand why you would need something more.

I believe I did play a better game than Steve. 

I think I positioned myself pretty well in the game and was able to recover well when faced with danger. The game was kind of a balancing act for me, in a way and I was able to play that middle ground without being nominated after being put up by Cass during Week 5. I was also never a final nom so week 5 was the closest I ever came to going home and I ended up with safety instead.

Steve mentioned "saving himself" when he was up against Liz but I think she would've gone no matter what he did or said at that point. The house saw her as a huge threat and there was no way she was staying over him in my opinion.

I also think I made better decisions overall. I really think Steve should have saved Howard with POV Week 11 when Kelsey was HOH. I'm honestly not sure if she would have put me or Cass up if he did (at that time I believed she wouldn't have put me up), but getting rid of either of us would be good for his game and I did kind of think Howard was lying about putting Steve up just to stay off the block. I could be wrong, of course, but Steve had a good chance of winning when he needed to down the stretch and still getting to F2 with Arlie. He made it to F2 by going the other way so it worked out, I just think he had a better opportunity in his hands. 

I also think he should have kept Arlie over Kelsey at F3. Yes, if I had won Final HOH I would've taken Arlie over Steve 100% but he couldn't predict I would win for sure at that point. 

Don't get me wrong, I do love Steve. He's hilarious and very fun to talk to and I think he's a good guy. I just disagree with some of his points and I would have taken a shot at him at certain points in the game had I won the right comps to be able to do it. 


Thank you for your question, James! 

[Steve]

Aug 8, 2016 15:39:02 GMT crazyjames said:

I want you guys to show us why YOU deserve the game and why the other person doesn't. You need to get this jury on your side. 

Good luck <3

Let me start by stating I don't think Shelli needs to get the jury on her side. I think it's already going in her favor. To answer your question though, let me get to it.

First of all, you were a competition beast who went against the house, that made me want to align with you. I didn't think I would go far with you, either with you leaving the house, or me having to cut you. I still respect you though. You're asking me why I deserve your vote, let's get at it.

That's actually a tough question, because we played pretty much the exact same game, just on two different sides of the coin. So most of the things she mentioned about herself, I could say the same thing. I positioned myself well. I was working with Liz at the exact same time as I was working with you, and I played middle man when both of you wanted the other out. I talked myself down a lot, which enabled me to jump into the burning fire of the game head first. She was only nominated once? I was nominated twice. One I knew I wasn't going home, and I still used that situation to put me in a better position in the house? The second one was the final four noms where it all came down to veto. Guess who won veto? This guy. In regards to Liz/Me. I did save myself. Sure, I wouldn't have went home that week, but if I didn't go to the other side of the house, and I didn't go to Howard and everyone and kept myself to be low key. Instead just asking for the votes I would've had off the bat (Howard and Arlie), I would've stayed, sure. But I would've went out the next week, or the week after. 

Was Howard lying about putting me on the block? I think so too. But I was playing for myself, and so an attack on me that late in the game from an ally is not something you can tolerate. When Kelsey won hoh, if I went ahead and started throwing Shelli under the bus, she wouldn't be saying "oh it's smarter to keep Steve, he probably doesn't mean it". She would be leading the pack to get me out. That's how the game works, you know? And while I played the game strictly for myself, there were times she played it for other people. Whether it be Liz or Howard or whoever, she could be influenced. I had arguments with her nearly every hoh she had aside from the last two, if she really wanted me to go, she had ample opportunity. She never took it though, just like how nobody took it. Any of those HOHs she had, where me and her were going at it, arguing back and forth, she could've used any of those two to put me up and get me out, so I feel "I would've taken a shot at him at certain points if I had the chance" isn't entirely valid.

Also, I do believe she gained nothing by putting Kathy up, aside from listening to Howard ramble about how Kathy needs to go for weeks. She put up someone who over and over refused because she wouldn't do that, and kathy never did her wrong, and she couldn't justify it. When she won HOH and Howard started pushing Kathy to go really hard, to the point where she was trying to talk to me about it, and lo and behold, she put up Kathy. I'm not dissing her move, but in my personal opinion, I think she should have kept her. The other person she was considering putting up was Kelsey, and I think at that point, aside from Howard, everyone would've been on board with it. 

I subverted expectations on how I can get to the end. Becky was right, it was in a negative way, I understand that. But credit where credit is due, it worked. I made selfish moves entirely based on myself, but they were solid moves. I kept myself in check throughout the game, making outlandish remarks and constantly posting in the living room trying to entertain everyone, so I could talk game to nearly everyone in the house, rat alliances out when I needed to, turned and cut people when it would push me into a better position where I wouldn't be a target. 

None of this is an attack on her by the way. Shelli is A1 and a fantastic person, and I do think she played a really good game. A great game, even. But I do whole heartedly believe I played a better one though, just because of how similar it was looking back, and how I took a lot of risks in the game, vocally, playing, and emotionally, and also, I took a wildly different path from hers (two sides of the same coin. If she's Batman, I've been the Joker), all the while, keeping up all the things I would need to do TO get to the end.


Gracias amigo, i'll see you on the other side. 

[Shelli Poole]

Aug 9, 2016 1:20:48 GMT Steve said:

Aug 8, 2016 15:39:02 GMT crazyjames said:

I want you guys to show us why YOU deserve the game and why the other person doesn't. You need to get this jury on your side. 

Good luck <3

Let me start by stating I don't think Shelli needs to get the jury on her side. I think it's already going in her favor. To answer your question though, let me get to it.

First of all, you were a competition beast who went against the house, that made me want to align with you. I didn't think I would go far with you, either with you leaving the house, or me having to cut you. I still respect you though. You're asking me why I deserve your vote, let's get at it.

That's actually a tough question, because we played pretty much the exact same game, just on two different sides of the coin. So most of the things she mentioned about herself, I could say the same thing. I positioned myself well. I was working with Liz at the exact same time as I was working with you, and I played middle man when both of you wanted the other out. I talked myself down a lot, which enabled me to jump into the burning fire of the game head first. She was only nominated once? I was nominated twice. One I knew I wasn't going home, and I still used that situation to put me in a better position in the house? The second one was the final four noms where it all came down to veto. Guess who won veto? This guy. In regards to Liz/Me. I did save myself. Sure, I wouldn't have went home that week, but if I didn't go to the other side of the house, and I didn't go to Howard and everyone and kept myself to be low key. Instead just asking for the votes I would've had off the bat (Howard and Arlie), I would've stayed, sure. But I would've went out the next week, or the week after. 

Was Howard lying about putting me on the block? I think so too. But I was playing for myself, and so an attack on me that late in the game from an ally is not something you can tolerate. When Kelsey won hoh, if I went ahead and started throwing Shelli under the bus, she wouldn't be saying "oh it's smarter to keep Steve, he probably doesn't mean it". She would be leading the pack to get me out. That's how the game works, you know? And while I played the game strictly for myself, there were times she played it for other people. Whether it be Liz or Howard or whoever, she could be influenced. I had arguments with her nearly every hoh she had aside from the last two, if she really wanted me to go, she had ample opportunity. She never took it though, just like how nobody took it. Any of those HOHs she had, where me and her were going at it, arguing back and forth, she could've used any of those two to put me up and get me out, so I feel "I would've taken a shot at him at certain points if I had the chance" isn't entirely valid.

Also, I do believe she gained nothing by putting Kathy up, aside from listening to Howard ramble about how Kathy needs to go for weeks. She put up someone who over and over refused because she wouldn't do that, and kathy never did her wrong, and she couldn't justify it. When she won HOH and Howard started pushing Kathy to go really hard, to the point where she was trying to talk to me about it, and lo and behold, she put up Kathy. I'm not dissing her move, but in my personal opinion, I think she should have kept her. The other person she was considering putting up was Kelsey, and I think at that point, aside from Howard, everyone would've been on board with it. 

I subverted expectations on how I can get to the end. Becky was right, it was in a negative way, I understand that. But credit where credit is due, it worked. I made selfish moves entirely based on myself, but they were solid moves. I kept myself in check throughout the game, making outlandish remarks and constantly posting in the living room trying to entertain everyone, so I could talk game to nearly everyone in the house, rat alliances out when I needed to, turned and cut people when it would push me into a better position where I wouldn't be a target. 

None of this is an attack on her by the way. Shelli is A1 and a fantastic person, and I do think she played a really good game. A great game, even. But I do whole heartedly believe I played a better one though, just because of how similar it was looking back, and how I took a lot of risks in the game, vocally, playing, and emotionally, and also, I took a wildly different path from hers (two sides of the same coin. If she's Batman, I've been the Joker), all the while, keeping up all the things I would need to do TO get to the end.


Gracias amigo, i'll see you on the other side. 

  

Okay, let's clarify a few things here because I think you're just pulling things out of ... thin air, Steve. 

First of all, we did not play the exact same game. No lol.

You said that I let people influence me like Liz and Howard? How exactly did I do that? I made all my own decisions, including who I nominated and who I voted out. Never once did Liz or Howard influence those things beyond just being an alliance member who you try to work with. 

You should always ask for votes when you're on the block! Just saying - you were never leaving lol. 

F4 Nominations do not count. Ask production - they told us specifically they do not matter, lol.

Kathy quit so you don't know how that week would've gone, but I disagree that I gained nothing. I explained my move, you can disagree and that's fine, but Kathy could've won the comps I ended up winning and then I would've been gone. It also didn't hurt my position with Kelsey because she didn't put me up when she won HOH after that. AND, I was not considering putting up Kelsey that week at all - where did you even get that? 

I don't think your posts in the living room or RNF chat made any difference to anybody, Steve. It was just, oh Steve's being weird again but it made no difference strategically. 

One final thing I'd like to say to you. I offered you a deal to take each other as soon as you won Part 2 of the HOH. Your answers to me were "yeah" and "sure" etc. It became obvious you were not decided and afterward I asked you about it and you said you would've considered both options but that you thought I would win over you hands down. In this finale, you've said Kelsey played a Phenomenal game and would win hands down so....now you're saying you played a better game than me, then why were you even considering keeping Kelsey over me at all? It should've been a no-brainer for you if Kelsey played the best game out of everyone and I played the same game as you.